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  I'm new and nervous!

  by kitten whiskers in

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  i am new here and have been "lurking" for several months.

  the discussions have helped me tremendously to break free from the society.

  i want to thank you all for your help and heartfelt posts.

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  Welcome kitten whiskers.
  
  I thought your opening comments were very very well written and full of meaning. There is no reason to feel nervous though I understand why you might.
  
  I even felt a bit guilty for just looking at this site but now I visit regularly and am going to meet many others from this site when we meet in Manchester in October for a curry!
  
  You will feel a lot more confident as time goes on and no one will criticise you either. This forum has certainly helped me and I look forward to learning more about you.
  
  Regards
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  Post Your Strange/Interesting Animal Anecdotes

  by Stephanus in

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  a mate of mine used to live in penshurst, and i had to pass the corner pet shop to get to his place.

  more often than not, a small black and white cat was sitting just out of the doorway in front of the shop.

  he was sitting patiently, with that dreamy, half-asleep expression cats sometimes get, looking up at the cages full of birds fluttering around!.

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  When I was apyoung lad (many years ago!) my parents were farmers tennants living in a cottage in rural Kent. We had a dog (half sheep dog half something else), two guinea pigs and a cat. One day the farmer told my mum that one of his sheep had given birth to three lambs and as they only bring two up would we like to rear the lamb?
  
  So we brought up a little black wooly lamb.
  
  However, it grew little horns, it started butting the dog out of the way and sleep in its kennel at night whilst the poor dog had to sleep outside, it ate the dogs food and more surprisingly made a terrible racket when we took the dog for a walk.
  
  So we had to take the lamb for a walk whenever we took the dog out!!!
  
  Eventually we reintroduced the lamb to the flock and every so often my mum would find out which field the lamb (now a full grown sheep) was in and we used to walk over to that particular field. When we reached the gate we would hold up dog bicsuits and call out to 'our' sheep and it would notice us and come charging over to the gate, put its front legs up on the gate and scoff the biscuits whilst all the other sheep would stop eating and wonder what was going on!!!
  
  This story is genuine - I am not on any medication!
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  Hi!

  by sarahbear76 in

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  so i just registered and i thought i should say something about myself instead of just lurking about.

  i'm 21 years old and i left the the jw's when i was 18. i was born into the religion so it's been really hard getting use to things.

  my story is pretty complicated and for some safety reasons i can't say to much.

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  quite an amazing story you have Sarahbear. Glad you are able to tell at least some of it - it helps to share things with others doesn't it?
  
  You will find many sympathetic 'ears' here.
  
  Welcome to the forum and good luck!
  
  Ian
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  Would you feel safe traveling to the Middle East as a tourist?

  by free2beme in

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  one of my dreams is to one day making to cairo egypt and see the great pyramids.

  i want to see a lot of things in that area, as well as other parts of israel, and the middle east region.

  i have been into history, for as long as i can remember.

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  I've just got up (well it is sunday) and I see there is this thread on travelling to the Middle East, and that my wife Bubble has beaten me to it and replied already.
  
  I'll just add that not only did we feel completely safe in Cairo, we also did not worry about being robbed - considering the abject poverty most there live in, street crime is far far lower than in any major European (or American) city.
  
  The Muslims who live in Egypt do not get agitated at any little thing and in fact they live alongside millions of christians in Cairo.
  
  I worked in London during the time the IRA were trying to bomb England and London in particular - it didn't stop me going to work. If it had, then the terrorist has won and I was determined that the IRA would never win.
  
  You must go to Cairo - the pyramids are an absolutely awe inspiring sight. You will be left wondering 'how on earth did they build these?'. You also will be glad that you have seen the only remaining wonder of the 'seven wonders of the world.
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  YOU MUST WATCH THIS TONIGHT IF YOU CAN!!!

  by Gill in

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  the doomsday code.

  this is on in the uk tonight on channel four at 7 pm.. this is the write up on it in the radio times:.

  'st john's apocalyptic vision of the end of the world in the book of revelation is one of the bible's best known passages, inspiring morbid fascination in many cultures.

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  I thought the program was very very interesting.
  
  I know a couple of born again christians whose views seem a bit extreme. Some of it seemed a bit similar to the Witto's but overall I thought what they were saying seemed to fit in with bible phrophecy much better then anything the JW's say.
  
  The Wittos are so vague about the king of the north, flip flopping on the wild beast/UN etc.
  
  It is very worrying that these 'End Timers" have so much say and power in the world.
  
  however, I personally don't subscribe to their views at all - oh there goes my chance of being caught up in the Rapture, the great tribulation must be coming for me!
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  Probably going to church tomorrow

  by fullofdoubtnow in

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  i may well be making my first visit to a place of worship since i da'd tomorrow.

  my friend marion wants to go, and i have agreed, a little reluctantly i must admit, to accompany her for support.

  the service we are planning to attend is at a baptist church near where we live, and is billed as a family service.

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  I personally have no desire to go to any church at all, but everyone to their own I suppose.
  
  Good luck, hope it goes well.
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  "i enjoyed your talk Brother"

  by fleaman uk in

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  i was musing about being a jw the other day.im not scarred by it like many,i dont hate anyone in my old cong..theres a couple of idiotic elders of course,but in the main my biggest thing when i think of my past life is the farsical nonsense of it all!.

  meeting attendance,knocking on doors...oh dear.. one of the stupidest things was being required to do talks.i mean,come on who really used to listen to that drivel..i mean really listen?.

  i was an ok speaker,nothing briliant,competent ..even gave a pub talk once when all the elders were on a jolly up at elders school.. it occurred to me how robotic bros and sis were when it came to giving praise!no matter how crap the talk was,one would always get a "i really enjoyed your talk brother".every time.without fail.i know they were being nice,i used to say it all the time too.my dad once said it to me and i asked him what he liked most about it?he admitted he didnt remember what it was even about.i dont remember in 30 years man and boy ever enjoying a talk.. yep,its a nonsense religion alright.full of braindead robots.. did anyone actually pay close attention and really enjoy the "food"from the platform?

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  When I was 'growing up' in d troof my mum and dad taught me to go up to the speaker after a public talk and tell him what a good talk it was and how much I enjoyed it - looking back it's not very christian to teach a child to lie is it?!
  
  When I started giving ministry school talks ( when I was 5 or 6 I think) of course loads of old dears would come up and congratulate me on my talk. When i eventually gave a few public talks I soon realised that the same old names used to come up and say some pleasantries - I remember thinking that they were not very genuine.
  
  Also, when it really was a totally crap public talk I made a point of going up to the speaker afterwards and telling him how I thoroughly enjoyed the way he delivered the talk.
  
  When you were little, did any of your parents ask you on the way home in the car what you got out of the meetings? Mine did regularly, so I made sure I would listen and remember one comment in detail so that I could pretend that I had been listening!
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  Interesting, I wonder if this will apply to JW's too?

  by BritBoy in

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  cold calling exclusion zones are springing up across the uk as householders try to deter door-to-door callers, including the latest strain of doorstep "seller" - the charity fundraiser.. the town centre has become their roaming ground, but lately, or so it seems, those insistent young fundraisers known to many as chuggers - charity muggers - have moved from high street to side street..... .

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5341696.stm.

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  south african beef

  I'm not sure that it applies to the Witto's.
  
  My understanding was that some councils were trying to cut down on people selling things door to door, particularly new roofing, driveways, garden makeovers etc.
  
  The JW's would of course argue that they are not selling anything - that the 'life saving' message is given without cost.
  
  We'll see how it pans out.
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  Young Baptism Candidates

  by Gordy in

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  had a visit today from my youngest daughter (17) a non-jw.

  lives with her jw mother.my wife.. the circuit had their assembly last weekend.

  her mother told her they had 12 baptised.

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  I was 18 when I was baptised - Twickenham 1980. Can't remember the date - oh, that's a sin isn't it? You are meant to have that date indelibly marked on your brain. Oh well. My brother got baptised much younger than me and yes I felt great pressure from my parents to get baptised. I'm obviously out of the org now but my brother is still very much in - so not all of the young kids that get baptised leave. Mind you, there is still hope I for my brother I suppose.
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  Did You Cheat at the Written Review?

  by south african beef in

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  during the boring written review, did you really prepare and look up the answers beforehand, or did you just write anything down or did you copy the superdub sitting next to you?

  personally i just wrote any old thing down and ticked it as right when they read out the answers.

  however when i was growing up i had to get loads right or i would face questions from my mum!

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  Oh yeah, I forgot that it was an insert in the KM. Sometimes I would turn up for the meeting not realising it was the WR, when I realised I thought great, no boring talks to listen through, then I was embarrassed as I had to borrow the WR sheet from someone (normally a 'thoughtful' elder) who happened to have a spare copy.